Monday, June 16, 2008

Meaningless (?) Trivia

Just looked up some career records for some prolific local players that popped into my head. I'm sure I left several people out. Here are their records playing doubles up at 4.5 Sectionals in Dallas: (in no particular order)

Tim Green: 8-5
Hai Vu: 7-5
Red Benzon: 9-9
GlennWright: 3-7
Nikki Lieu: 7-4
Gary Armstrong: 6-0
Tim Hurlbert: 7-1
Jacob Vernon: 4-6
Alex Chang: 8-6
Peter Rothe: 2-3

There are some excellent doubles players on that list. I'm struck by two things: The talent is really good up there...so good that many/most matches are crapshoots coming down to the third set breaker. Secondly, what Armstrong and Hurlbert have accomplished is pretty damn impressive.

79 comments:

  1. I'd say the Best team on that List would DEFINITELY be ARMSTRONG/HURLBERT. Look at there results. they are downright dominant in 4.5 League. Which makes me wonder how they both won there appeals this past year.

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  2. Maybe that sort of record is indicative of someone playing out of level and that is a candidate for a "3 strike" rule.

    As my mentor taught me when recruiting out of level players -- Tell them to win, but make it close and seem competitive.

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  3. Why is it impressive that strong 5.0 players Hurlbert and Armstrong win all of the time at the lower 4.5 level?

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  4. You accidentally forgot some other MobSquad players. Tuan Tran 5-9. Danny Vu 5-6. Chants C. 0-3. Thang Pham 3-7.

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  5. Most of Hurlbert/Armstrong's doubles scores together have not been very competitive, especially at the Sectional level. It does make you wonder how they won their appeals (if they had to file them) being so dominant locally, and at sectionals.

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  6. Christopher Towle, shut the fuck up! You seem to talk like you know it all.

    You worthless piece of shit!

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  7. Somebody needs anger management...

    Care to elaborate on your rage..?

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  8. Obviously this is your first walk in the the Houston League Blog. That is PG rated compared to some of the postings in the past.

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  9. Not sure why you are such a hater.

    Just relax my anonymous.

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  10. We need Lord of the Rings to spice things up.

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  11. The competition up at sectionals is very solid. It is also unfair sometimes to look at those records as it is important to see who those guys partnered with and what line they played. Here is a question.. Has Armstrong or Hurlbert lost even a set at sectionals?

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  12. Hurlburt lost a match playing with Tim Green

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  13. This has been a great league year so far. It is week 10 and there are still many playoff spots up for grabs in 4.0 and one in 4.5.

    4.0 Pool 1:
    Copperfiled
    Chancellors
    SAP or Rolido Boys
    Smokers

    4.0 Pool 2:
    Lost Forest or Bear Creek
    JCC or Willowfork
    Sienna Plantation or SAP
    Hurricanes

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  14. Let's predict the lineups for this week...

    Hurricanes

    #1 singles Chris Hunckler
    #2 singles Don Rios

    #1 doubles Craig Bobo/Phong Regent
    #2 doubles Jacob Vernon/Brian Mills
    #3 doubles Chris Hunckler/Michael Chec

    Crush

    #1 singles Gary Armstrong
    #2 singles Phi Huynh

    #1 doubles Omon Dibua/Tim Hurlbert
    #2 doubles Glenn Wright/Rob Pekar
    #3 doubles Brandon Burris/Stephen Valentine

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  15. oops make that Stanich/Chec at #3 dubs

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  16. I will take the Crush if those are the lineups. I think it will be 3-2though with the Hurricanes winning no.2 singles and no.2 doubles.

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  17. Is Crush/Hurricanes all you guys ever talk about? Well I guess it is better than christopher towle getting bitchslapped by an anonymous poster.

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  18. Why would they take Mills out of the singles lineup? That would be D U M B.

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  19. Let's predict the lineups for this week... part 2

    Swwiinngs?


    Yutts?

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  20. Phi 0-12 in Dallas.

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  21. I looked up Phi's record in doubles, its on the plus side, I doubt you can say the same for you.

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  22. Stronger Doubles Teams are on which team Crush or Hurricanes?

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  23. He did well last year in Dallas, 3 of 4 playing doubs with Hai Vu.

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  24. I thought the conversation was in regards to the Yutts/Schwing match on Thursday? That is more interesting, it determines who is second place in their division.

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  25. Vincent Giordanelli and Monty Lindloff would be a tough singles combo for the shwing. Rothe and Hall is tough to beat in doubles. Ki Hyun Kim and whomever his partner is would have a good chance of winning also. i would predict the shwing to win 3-2 over the yutts. Tran, Morales, Bui, Mouton, Dugas, Quach, and Diep will all have to be in the lineup if they want to win this one for the yutts.

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  26. Rothe has been hurt and out of the lineup for several weeks, it is doubtful that he plays this week. IF Vince Giordanelli comes in for the match it would be unlikely to see him in the singles unless both Giordanelli brothers play singles which could be an option. I think that the shwing have a lot more to think about as far as possible lineups are concerned which probably puts the outcome in the hands of captain Rothe even if he doesn't play.

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  27. Which 4.0 team is stronger? The MET or Chancellor's. If they played head2head, what would the score be?

    I would predict the Met 4-1, with the 1 loss in doubs.

    Any thoughts?

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  28. GO Rolido Boys!

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  29. Rolido Boys are going down!!!!

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  30. Chancellor vs Met prediction? The singles line will split 1-1 and Chancellor will clinch @ least 2 dub lines. The scores should closely relates 3-2 not 4-1.

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  31. Chancellors does not have a singles player that could beat any of the Met's top 6 singles players. Chancellors does have a couple of nice doubles lines but I doubt any of them could actually beat any of the Met teams. It would be a very competitive match with a lopsided result, Met 4-1 or 5-0.

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  32. Chancellors would win bc they would bring 5.0 players that are not on the roster.

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  33. Chancellors has super ringer Chad Henegan, nuff said.

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  34. Did Chancellor's get a DQ for playing non-roster players?

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  35. Chancellor's will get buried by the power of the MET. Chancellors doesn't stand a chance!

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  36. Chancellor is the MobSquad at the 4.0 level, they will get killed. Met will beat both Chancellor and the MobSquad at their level.

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  37. Anyone know if Houston 4.5 will send 2 teams to Dallas this year? I heard they will but the HTA site doesn't mention a wildcard for 4.5 yet.

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  38. Probably 1 team in 4.5.

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  39. Copperfield can beat either Chancellors or Met in 4.0.

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  40. 2 teams are going in 4.5, and the winner in NOHO as well.

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  41. how do you know it's 2 teams this year. Is it listed anywhere?

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  42. That is the way its been in the past, and they have mostly followed that trend for everything else.

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  43. Anyone have thoughts on how the bottom 3-4 teams in 4.5 would do against the top 3-4 teams in 4.0?

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  44. Go back to 6/2 or 6/3 where the City Playoff info is listed. He says that there will be a battle for the second spot in Dallas, ask him where he got the info.

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  45. The Lost Forest 4.5 team would most likely lose to the top 4.0 teams 4-1, or 5-0. Lakeside Estates appears to have some singles power, however, lack any doubles based on scores in the system. The 4.0 teams would prevail again, 3-2 or 4-1 over Lakeside Estates.

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  46. I was presumptuous when I mentioned a second trip to Dallas. In most years Houston does get a second team in 4.5, however, that is totally dependent on how many leagues "make" statewide and how many extra teams they need to properly fill out brackets. In some years they've had just 12 teams at 4.5 sectionals, and at times that can mean only one Houston representative. If there are sixteen teams, Houston is in good shape. Sue usually doesn't decide this until late in the season, but I've not spoken with her about it yet this year.

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  47. the top 4.0 team would probably be competitive again these 4.5 teams: Lakeside, LLTC Ball Busters, LF Fires. that would be interesting to see.

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  48. That hick Henegan has a bone to pick with Freeman as he was on the team last year, did not get playing time and actually resigned from the team.

    Funny thing is he use to have in his email signature
    "2007 Coke Doubles Finalist"

    Should be interesting to see if Henegan can pull a "HOW DO YOU LIKE ME KNOW?" to Freeman come city playoffs....

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  49. Who is Henegan?

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  50. Who is Freeman?

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  51. Isn't Freeman that fat guy that puts a team together, but doesn't play. It almost sounds like Knutson.

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  52. I prefer the term "Costanza-like" or "comfortably stocky"......

    I don't typically play unless it is a big match since I like to allow my less-talented and less-fit players on both the 4.0 and 4.5 teams to get some playing time....and, as you can tell, I hate the publicity.

    FYI - I plan on making my 4.5 singles debut this Thursday night at the Met.....watch out Jimmy, better default line 1 singles!!!!!!

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  53. Does anyone know off hand if you don't have a computer rating what happens when you sign up for a tournament the very first time. Does the computer automatically require you to go through the steps to self rate yourself.

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  54. Best thing to do would be pair up with a Summer League Team Captain and let them know your tennis history, and see if they can underrate and make you a ringer for the next season. JUST KIDDING!! For tournaments, I think you can self rate when you first sign up with the USTA. However, when you sign up for league the first time, you may have to fill out the rating questions.

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  55. Yeah, I know that you can self rate if you want to. But is it possible to sign up for a tournament at any level without having to self rate?

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  56. I'm on the TTA League Committee and we're having a conference call today to discuss various things. This is something I would like to bring up but don't know if it's already been addressed. I know in the past it was possible to sign up for tournaments and not self rate. Then, if you played just tournaments at that level all year you'd have that as your rating for the next year.

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  57. If you don't have a rating you can sign up for and play at any level. If you play enough matches then at the end of the year you will have generated a computer rating.

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  58. To the past poster: how do you think team captains like Benzon get his "ringers" computer rated.

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  59. Will the Rolido Boys ever make the playoffs?

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  60. where is the Kingwood Met 4.5 match being played tonight?

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  61. Kingwood/Met 4.5 match is at the Met tonight.

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  62. Does the womens' pro tourney not affect the match? Will they be done by the time the league match starts?

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  63. It should not affect it, they have been done early enough this week for members to have court availability in the evenings.

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  64. Kick the skirts to the curb.

    Equal pay at the grand slams What a joke.

    The men are actually earning less per set (or hour) than the women given the amount of time spent on court.

    Equal pay for winning an 6 match event for women is most 18 sets and for men is 30 sets.

    An average of 1 hour per set equals 12 additional hours of work for the men to earn the same pay.

    That is fallacy discrimination!

    How is that fair?

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  65. true, very true

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  66. Plus, because the women's matches are shorter, they can more easily play doubles = more money for the tournament

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  67. Sorry, I do not think women deserve equal money if their scoring is not the same as men. When its best 2 out of 3 for both the men and women, then prize money should be equal. If its best 3 out of 5 for men, and 2 out 3 for women, then their money should not be equal.

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  68. Does anyone know what date the 4.0 JCC/Village Place match has been re-scheduled to?

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  69. Looks like rain tonight...

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  70. Unless you are indoors tonight, it just may soak the night matches. Animated radar on www.wunderground.com is showing rain heading this way from the North.

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  71. i work close to tomball and the storm just blew by and hardly any rain. the storm is moving fast, so even if it does rain now, then temperature will dry the courts up before 7. plan on playing

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  72. some flooding around galleria and downtown areas, bring your waders

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  73. Freeman for President

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  74. Looks like the Hurricanes nearly got swept 5-0.

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  75. The Crush won 4-1. Mills was the only winner for Hurricanes. I think they said it was a 3 set win over Phi Huyhn. Sarosh was exposed as the 4.0 that he is getting trounced by Hai Vu 6-1 6-1. None of the other matches were close except for #1 dubs which I heard was a 3-setter and pretty high quality tennis. That's it.

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  76. I overheard Red saying if his team doesnt win nationals this year he will pretend to be a female next year and form a womens 4.5 team. Ward wants in

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  77. Ward's been in.

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